EP 12: Simplifying Organizing Your Space with Jennifer Major

Today's episode is a great interview with Jennifer Major who is an organization expert who is talking through how to begin to organize when things are SUPER overwhelming and you don't know where to start!

Jennifer Major, founder of Cultivating You, a Houston-based coaching firm focused on empowering and educating women to cultivate her very best life through the organization of space and time. As women, we are often juggling everyone's needs and need support to take care of ourselves. Jennifer has been working with women to improve their space and time through her career in HR and in the last 15+ years as a professional organizer. She pushes her clients with compassion and understanding to support growth and confidence.

She has a gift for our listeners: 
I wanted to share something special with you. Something that will give you value starting right now and doesn't require you to make a purchase to take advantage. I created a brainstorming tool with prompts for you to create and note your values, priorities and functions that you want in your space. Work through this and the decision making for your office (and other spaces) will be much easier. 

https://cultivating-you.mykajabi.com/podcast-thank-you

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Websitehttps://cultivating-you.com/
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Transcript

spk_0:   0:00
Welcome to the simplified Success podcast, where we take the complicated, overwhelming and unorganized parts of your business and life and break them down to simple steps so you could integrate them to reach your goals. This is a place where we believe anything is possible with the right mindset, tools and strategies. I'm your host, Lindsay Reynolds. Each week I'm gonna bring you practical tips and tricks to build your skills, mindset and strategy from industry leaders who frankly, are disk, rushing it and making things happen. If you're ready to make the shift from good to great, but keep it simple and you're in the right place. Hello. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the episode, or so excited. Today we have an interview with a very, very smart, organized lady, which is why she's here today. Help make your life easier, more organized, but really focusing on your space in your life. So I will. Jennifer introduced herself, her background, her business, all the things. But we are so excited to have you on the show today, Jennifer.

spk_1:   1:03
Awesome. Thanks so much. Lindsey, I am so glad to be here, so to kind of summarize in short, my background is in HR, my undergrads in psychology and I spend the first part of my career working in a charge. Both corporate consulting, small business start ups, all the things and really found my love there for and a process and systems and efficiency. And some of that came from my very first real HR job. They threw me into each of the sub departments inside. Okay, go. Go in, figure out what they do, figure out how to do it and then figure out how to make it better redo it and then train them and don't piss them off in the process. And, you know, as a between 3 24 year old like that was the big order. And so through that process and I've got some intuitive skills there, though, you know, my mom, looking at my high school room would not have necessarily agreed because it was a hot mess. So, you know, I mean, some of that, you know, is just very intuitive to me. But it's just like I just found that I loved it. But then I fell out of love with HR and just found myself naturally gravitating towards wanting to help organize things, Which is why I like I fell in love with doing startups because I would go in and I would kind of help get all the HR stuff organized. Wasn't doing the HR and and all that. It was about getting it all put together, getting it efficient. Getting a productive as fast as we couldn't is as efficiently and effectively as we could. And when I went on on my own, it was time to do that HR stuff. But I wanted to do something different, something a little bit more fun, something a little less responsibility. And a friend suggested that I do organizing. And this was 16 plus years ago and there was not a lot of that back then and it was just like, Well, okay, let's just see where that goes and and things have certainly morphed and changed. But the basic said that have stayed the same until probably about a year or two ago when I decided, Okay, I I mean, I do want need to serve at a bigger level, and so I'm still, well, prayer to quarantine, of course, doing in person but also really offering some more virtual options because that power can still be there that day.

spk_0:   3:31
Yeah, so why don't you walk through? Kind of when? Let's say I'm like, I'm calling you on like all right, I want to organize my my workspace if we talk about workspace specifically and you and I have some other talks before we started the recording and in previous conversations about kind of the impact your environment has on you. So what? What kind of kind of info do you have about what's important about making sure your space serves that for you,

spk_1:   3:58
for sure? Well and specifically for small business owners, that's and entrepreneurs like you've got to really get that homed in, but it abroad level visual clutter is mental clip. And so with even right now, so many of us working from home there, there's more stuff and more people, right? So if you think about a clear space, think about when you walk into a hotel room. It's not sparse, but it's warm and it's clean and it's simple. And so getting that same feeling and all of your space is really makes all the difference and allows you to work more effectively and so having that there really makes a huge difference. And for entrepreneurs, even more so because in a regular corporate job you go when you have one job as an entrepreneur, you actually have 12 jobs. You're the marketing department. You're the accounting department. You're the sales department. You're the creation department. You're the all of the things department, right? And so each of those faces needs toe have kind of their own space toe work. Now I can tap 12 offices because that's just silly. But we can figure out how to kind of create centers, almost like a kindergarten classroom. My mom's a kindergarten teacher, so that's you know, that's what comes to mind. But you think about there was the cooking center in the Reading Center and and you know where you have the blocks and same thing. And so sometimes for us that means in a in an office space that means you create baskets for certain things. A great example of this is I had a client to is an image training consultant, but also had a side hustle of health and wellness products, and she often send out samples. And if somebody asked for a sample. It would take her better part of a week to get it out to them because her stuff was spread out all over the place. And so we put all of those things in a basket. We put the bag. She sent it in the no cards, the pens, the all the postage stuff, the samples themselves. All of that was in one basket. So she pulled the basket out, take care of it about two or three minutes and then put the basket back underneath her desk. She was out of the way, but it was contained, and it had everything she needed in that. So the result of that was that she got them out same day. But then the better result of that is that she got better sales from it because she was getting that sample in the hands of people closer to when they requested it and they were getting excited about it and they could keep that excitement. So it's just a lesson that we can. We can really kind of consolidate those things and simplifying and also allow ourselves. I have some blank space Aladdin.

spk_0:   6:58
So what hurts so like Let's say OK, your, um, like, someone comes in like, OK, I've got a space. I haven't office, but I'm feeling a little cluttered like I don't know. I think my space isn't really serving need What are the steps that you walk through? Like you said with your client, you know, getting things consolidated into one space. How does someone navigate through knowing, like, should this be in its own basket? Or what would be the best way for meteo to physically set myself up? Like, how do your process?

spk_1:   7:27
Well, it starts to fold. So what are your sort of values and priorities and functions that you need in that space? You've got to define that and then clearing out the space. Okay, so it's easy oftentimes to think about a closet because we all have a closet space. Right? So use that as an analogy, right? Has an analogy for sure. So if you were going to work in your closet, if you just walk in and you start trying to figure out like what I want to keep wouldn't want Oh my gosh. So overwhelming. So many decisions. Seriously, if you say you know what I'm gonna start with shirts and then I'm gonna start a short sleeve shirts and so on the ball, those out. And then now I'm gonna sort them by color. And then I'm gonna look at just my white shirts first, and then I'm gonna go to my pink and red shirts and then that decision making becomes easier.

spk_0:   8:21
That seems so preventable cause when you said they will clean out my closet, I've been wanting to do that for a while, and I haven't done it yet. But like if you said I just use them to go do your T shirts today, all I could have done that that's easy. That feels very that's it. Feels very achievable,

spk_1:   8:34
right? Break it into smaller chunks and sort first and sort down to sub categories. Toe where there's really almost no category law. So once you defined in your office space, you were your values, your priorities and your functions. Well, then, that's for your sorts come from. So

spk_0:   8:52
are some examples of values, and I know what a function that function seems simple. It's like what can happen but on the values and priorities. What? What do you mean by those categories. What would fall into that for a workspace

spk_1:   9:03
short. So generally, like I value having like my space, I call you having extreme space I value being able tiu on, have a space that that feels homey and comfortable, Whatever, whatever that is for you. You know, everybody's

spk_0:   9:21
me. I have, like, five quotes on my wall, but my lap met my my monitors,

spk_1:   9:25
right? Yeah. I want to be inspired. I want to be surrounded by that inspiration. You know, whatever that is for you for sure

spk_0:   9:33
is that does the kind of technology used fall into values because, like for me, like, I like having multiple screens that a fuzz at a value also has

spk_1:   9:40
value and function, right? So show you value being able to see a lot of things at once. And baby, have, you know, kind of multiple things going at one time. The function is having two monitors to be able to do that got affected. That's how that translates

spk_0:   9:58
to live with the priorities. What would that be for priorities than

spk_1:   10:01
so again? It was an entrepreneur. Like you've got your the accountant. You're the marketing. You're the all the things right, But some of those air really higher priority than others. You know, being able to do your content creation, being able to do your sales, being able to do recording in video, those kinds of things are gonna be higher priorities than maybe account, right? Unless you're an accountant, bookkeeper, then that's gonna be a high priority, right? So that's that's how that shifts out. And so then you take that and you use those as your filters and decision making. So when you're looking at, like, I'm gonna pick on your bookshelf just because

spk_0:   10:40
do it No, no. All right. Hey, actually, you guys can't. So a bookshelf has, like, ridiculous amounts of books, cause I'm all about the books, and I havent sacked different. And there they are, organized by topic. But there's no organized any other way. It is. That's okay.

spk_1:   10:54
That's okay. But that's but that's how you if you were like you know what I really you know. Like I love books, but I really want a more clean and sparse look. Right. Let's just say that that was that was a shift that you have, right? And so then Okay. Well, that means I need tohave less books because the books need to be out in just the lower bookshelves. Right? So then I need to go through these books and I'm gonna cattle on the Fulham all off the shelf. I'm gonna categorize them by topic, and then I'm gonna go through each of those stacks by topic and figure out OK, Which ones are the ones that are most important to me? Because I've only got three shelves on the bottom because the top three shelves all are going to be kind of more simple in the core. I can have some keep books on there, but not bookshelves Full. Right, So that's that queer. That's where that value priority and function comes in, right and so and then going through and doing that that sorting and getting those kind of set up. And you do that in all of the spaces, whether it's creating a basket, whether its doors, whether it's on your desk, on your walls, whatever. And a I want to also encourage your listeners to really it deployed Two things one think out of the box and I'll talk about that a little bit more. But and the other is grace like do not Every day is easy. Your desk is gonna be a hot mess some days and you know some of US office in the closet at first or in the living room, and it's a mobile finger. Whatever, right? So give yourself grace that, like, it's not gonna be perfect day What?

spk_0:   12:37
That was actually, when my question is, How how do you manage this when you don't have a dedicated space for it? If you don't have a dedicated office per se, let's say you have tow you shut up, set up camp wherever you can,

spk_1:   12:50
write well. And some of that is that thinking out of the box is sometimes you. You go and buy some of those big cubes or a toe or something, and I mean, like, I've got a client who has a wagon because sometimes she's got to go to the garage. Or sometimes she just has to go to the park and work or whatever, right? But then, like she's got these built boxes and bins in there and she's got her office supplies. She's got her file folders just she could put a laptop in her technology in there, and she couldn't really wherever she wants to, right? But then she contracted about

spk_0:   13:23
itself follows in the function value priority because she has the things that matter most already, ready to go and organize. So whenever she's ready to work, she could just roll on on wherever she needs to go. And if it's the function that she needs and if it's her priority of being able to work regardless in space, which relays the climbing and you think about it like I think maybe something, maybe it's just me. But like I do some of that, Naturally, I have a backpack. I'm gonna leave my backpack. Has things that matter to me like my post it notes, or I'm very picky about pens. It's a huge priority for me, the right kind of pen. I don't like that pens, you know, stuff like that that, like, make working fun. Absolutely. But I think maybe maybe you do that. You even realize it's like you're putting kind of logic to what some people just do naturally, and then some people, the idea of organizing just blows their eyes. It's like

spk_1:   14:17
right well, and it's about being intentional because I think a lot of people you know will look on Pinterest or look on Nike air wherever and think. OK, well, this is what it's supposed to look like. No,

spk_0:   14:27
dude, it has

spk_1:   14:28
to look like what? What works for you, You know, I mean, you think about filing for, you know, like like like finding work projects. You're not like archival filing of your, you know, more got triple. But, you know, some people are stackers. Some people like folders in one of those little sorters on their desk. Some people want him tucked away in the George. Some people like notebooks. It doesn't matter. It's what works for you, right? As long as there's a system and that your intentional about it and relatively consistent right? And so you know and the other piece were that thinking out of the box comes in play. You know, now that we're in a land of so much video recording and you know, like if you look at all these four recorders and experts and folks on the news who are not used to being at home and recorded for the love, can somebody help them with what's behind, Right. So think about that. Like if you're gonna be on a recording, what your desk may face like yours Looks like it's up against a wall. Your desk is up against a wall. It's yeah. So and And a lot of people have that. But a lot of people also have kind of a floating desk. You can sit on the other side of your desk

spk_0:   15:46
and change how everything looks

spk_1:   15:48
and a little sudden you're looking out a window. You're looking at a blank wall. You're looking at a wall that's got artwork on it. What cares? Nobody cares where you're sitting, but again that holds in that kind of What are your values and priorities and functions? Is that no, you want tohave a beautiful, clean, tidy space behind you when you're doing video, then make that. But that doesn't have you pay the same space. You do your regular work. It just doesn't work. Can be literally the other side of it for this. You know where their corner of it. It's just about changing that angle.

spk_0:   16:21
Yeah, totally. That makes

spk_1:   16:23
will get created without

spk_0:   16:25
Yeah, So Okay, so you start with your intention, your priority and your values. And then what's what? Once you have that kind of defined as faras what's really important to you about your space, what's really important to you about how it works and all of that? How do you start creating that?

spk_1:   16:46
So you start obviously with that first priority, which is likely your top function. You know, it's this is how I need to do the bulk of my work. And so you start with that that space, and so that's generally gonna be the desk space and literally clear it off. Now, you know, again, kind of picking on your desk is an example. Well, you're not gonna You don't need to move the monitors off your desk, right? You know, they're gonna be there. That's no big deal. Right? But if you decided you know what? I'm gonna float my desk. I'm gonna be ableto flip to the other side for doing videos. Well, then the monitors would need to come off, right? So don't don't create more work where you don't have Teoh. But you really want to kind of empty it all off and then start doing the source thes air. The things I need maybe for all of my functions or the majority of my functions. The posted in its the pens, the paper clips, the you know, whatever those things are, and and place them very intentionally. Where am I going to use them the most? If this is something I'm reaching for all the time, I don't need to put the post it notes in the back of the drawer. I could put them in the front of the door, or I could put them in on the desk. I could put them on the desk in a in a cute little something, or I could just put them on the desk again. Some of that comes into the value of how much do you aesthetics influence? My space. Right. And so then you start e. I mean, you layer that. Okay, this is what applies to most of my stuff. And then this is what you know. This is that next thing. So maybe that's that that work project filing, whether it's again, folders, notebooks, whatever that is, right. And then you just go from there and you kind of fan out based on those priorities and functions and and work your way down that sorting first because sorting then sub sorting in the sub sorting as much as you can really allows the decision making that happen super easy. Because then using that closet example again, then you're just looking at your white short sleeved shirts. I'm gonna take out all the ones that are a little pilled that have a hole in on Those are gone. These don't fit those air gone Now these are the things that I choose to keep right And then you can also see, Like where there's fools so like OK, well, now I don't have any white shirts. Well, crap. So let me put that on the list, right? Right. You consumed so right? Yeah, because, you know, inevitably otherwise what's happening is that you're working And then in the middle of you being in the middle of a project, then you realize crap. I don't have whatever I mean and it's too late to get it for that. And so then you have to kind of fumble, and it's Are you all so identifying those things as you go? You know, what are the things that I really want need doesn't mean you can have other things. You know, I really want a high powered scanner. Well, that doesn't mean we can have that day. One right? Right here is, but yeah, but at least we know what we want, right? And so we can identify that we know how. Toe Aim for it on. And we could make a space for it. It's something that Okay, well, in the next three weeks, I know I can do that. I'm just gonna go ahead, make space for

spk_0:   20:16
you. Like it. You like it? Well, that makes it really Honestly, I love how you said there's really not a wrong way to do this. And I think I think a lot of people feel like they can't tackle organizing anything because it's too overwhelming because they have to fit into a box. And that's something That's something I've always said in my own. My own clients is like, I'm giving you a canvas. Given you different colors of paint. These things are required. You have to have a canvas. You have to have pain. Now, the way that you mess within it, it's totally up to you. So I do believe that these things are foundational. You have to do these things. So, like your said, you have to evaluate your values. You have to understand what's important to you about the way that your spaces and understand what makes you feel good in a space to function based on what you're doing. And like you said, it could look difference depending on what we're working on. So, like if I'm working on my accounting stuff, then I might play different kind of music, and I might have it by my calculator out. But if I'm working on content, I'm not playing the same music and I'm doing and then you'll have my candle It no really examples, but like I know what makes me feel excited to do that task. And so it's just kind of thinking about what makes you most inspired when you're doing that thing on and knowing that yours may look different than somebody else's. So like, the Pinterest office doesn't have to be your office or you are a so yeah and then, but at the same time, if that's what makes you feel most inspired, then it's it's who of you to create that so that you can make sure you feel that inspired to get your work done. Now I have a lot of friends who are also entrepreneurs that really love working in cool spaces so they prefer. But they have a home office, but they feel most excited and most creative when they're doing certain things at a coffee shop or at a nice hotel in the in the lobby. You know, whatever that looks like for them. And so I I love how you give people the room to organize, but with in a way that feels best to you to create the results that you want. You're

spk_1:   22:22
losing polluting. Yeah, because otherwise that's where people get stuck in that tail spin like, Well, I can't do this or or you go and you buy all the things, all the containers and all the the doodads, right, and you put it together like somebody else's. But it doesn't stick because it doesn't fit how you naturally flow

spk_0:   22:44
right, which would think it. I

spk_1:   22:47
think there has to be some aesthetic piece to it, right? Like if you don't like the way that thing looks, we'll put that on your list. to replace it.

spk_0:   22:56
Well, it's funny you say that because when I was with my first moved into this house my husband and I where I was I I wanted a couple monitors docking station. That was priority for me. So we have an office on the other side of the house that I started doing. But we were sharing it and I didn't like it. I wanted to move the I wanted to move the death somewhere. Alice. I didn't like the way foul and he was like, Oh, no, it's fine. I'm like, You know what? What is the no separate offices? It was like, Oh, I don't think we need separate offices And I'm like, No, I think we dio cause I want the office to feel a certain It's funny cause I didn't I was It was kind of a single in first when he's like I don't know why you need your own desk in your own stuff and I'm like, I just want my own Well, hilarious thing is like one of recording this for all in quarantine, and I told him the other day, I'm like that you're glad we have our own offices because we're both working from home and we wouldn't end. It's great because we only really, ever run into each other in the lunch room. You know, like in the kitchen that night. You know, in the morning. It's like having a day. And he goes to his office and I go to mind. And But I think there's something in the and I'm not saying you will always happen option. I will say I feel extremely blessed that we are in a situation where there's enough room to do that. I will say My office is not very big and it's a lot smaller than a bedroom. Look, you couldn't put a bed in here by any means, but it's cozy, and that's what mattered to me for. And I wanted like I bought a special desk, but it's not. It was like $59 on Amazon. It wasn't expensive, but I wanted something that was clean and I wanted something that was white and I wanted my monitors on a little, uh, it was called, like whatever the monitors air on like a sand. Really, I want because I wanted the desk space, so it's I think it's and I did it over time. For the record, it wasn't something I could do all at once. Uh, and I just made it happen over time. And it's even funny because you've been working in the office for the past, you know, a month and 1/2 all we've been quarantine straight through. It's been really interesting because I keep changing and and I think that's something that's really good for people to know. She like There's room for for you to change your mind. Absolutely. Yeah, like organized. And it has to stay that way and like like you said about, you know, having being consistent as much as possible, but also, like, leave yourself room to adjust, you know, right.

spk_1:   25:13
I mean, being organized is not having a magazine ready space all the time. Being organized is about everything having a place and it being intentional, and that it can go back to that when it gets wacky did

spk_0:   25:27
Well, I think that's like very defining what organization mean because I think a lot of times when you say organize your space, you think of Marcus Stewart, right? We're like other cliche type things where It's like you have, like, an unlived space. And and that's not necessarily the case. It's like that constantly organized chaos. If you know where stuff is and it doesn't take energy from you to find it or make it work, then it sends a win, right? Yeah, who have that? So what are some of your favorite tips when somebody is going to navigate through this? Um, what are what are your favorite tips to make it easy and simple.

spk_1:   26:06
So set a timer for yourself. So say that you're gonna work on it for 10 minutes, 30 minutes to hours, whatever that time is, right. Set a timer for yourself so that you can take a break and recommend setting that timer. You know, if you're going for 30 minutes or more, set that timer for a few minutes before that time so that you've got time to wrap up. You know, if you're only doing 10 minutes sprints, that's fine. Just that a pretend minutes and

spk_0:   26:32
recommend marathons, or do you think it's better to do it in chunks?

spk_1:   26:35
It really is what works for you, what amount of time you have, you know, cause I think about like the people who have Littles at home right now. Like they may only have 10 minutes at a time, right? Or they may say, You know what? It's your shift. I'm gonna go do this for to have resemble, like myself in my room. Oh, so I mean, it really is whatever works for you, whatever time you have and what makes sense Stay in the space. So as you find things that this is for Tony, this needs to go in the kitchen. This needs to go back to the bedroom that you know, those kinds of things makes tax for those things, even bring took bags or boxes so that they could go in them in a organized manner. But don't leave this space now if you're working in space for two hours and you need to be obviously take care of that. But other than that, don't lead the space because that's when squirrels have It's the Okay, well, we go take this back to the kitchen, and then I'm gonna get a snack, and then 45 minutes later, right? We're off track cases that I know. Yeah, Set the timer. Don't leave the room.

spk_0:   27:43
Okay, but leave the room

spk_1:   27:45
and categorizing sort first. Those are huge, you know? And then once you're done, label the heck out of it, okay? Because there is no reason for you toe have to guess in wonder. So

spk_0:   28:02
you're going to do the work to sit down. So supplies wise before you started, you need Teoh know where you're gonna be, have any baskets or anything like that, and then some way to label, even if it's just a posted? No.

spk_1:   28:13
Right. And I mean and don't don't overthink the baskets, you know? I mean, you've got stuff around your house killed for what you can. You know those

spk_0:   28:24
a dollar tree person when it comes to

spk_1:   28:26
battle of the old treatment.

spk_0:   28:27
I mean, that's with one thing you all like when it comes to doing organization like don't go spend so much money on the stuff, uh, to do it, the tools like I'm literally the dollar tree. And I think anybody listening to this you have some sort of dollar store access. They aren't the highest quality baskets in the world. I will say that like you wouldn't want to put like bricks in them. but they work totally good. Like my entire office is organized with dollar store baskets. And they're cute. They're only after you can write Roll House for, like, 50 bucks. Crawler

spk_1:   28:57
three, biglots. Um, Kia Target Walmart

spk_0:   29:02
I, Nike and I I might be pretty. I home once in a while and target Alex right on my mark There. A little bit more expert. Well, obviously, when the dollar store, but

spk_1:   29:13
right, Well, I mean also, like, you know, in the land outside of courting when we can go all the shopping, then you know, good Look at the Goodwill's and the resale stores and that kind of thing, because people get rid of that stuff all the time because it's not working for them, for whatever reason. Great. Yeah. So, you know, And you can buy really, really good quality baskets and bends and stuff for nothing at recess stores. So, um, so yeah, don't ever think that. And sometimes, if that means that you know what, I'm gonna use this shoebox. I'm gonna uses Amazon box. That's okay. And if you want it to be aesthetically pleasing in the meantime, wrap it was a gift. Fret jam. You know. Yeah. You know what? Some paper around. Whatever. You know, whatever floats your paid

spk_0:   29:56
it. Yeah. Just to take, like, shoeboxes or boxes, like even Amazon boxes. I mean, surely all are ordering from Amazon and those air. Hey, you can you can totally, like, make those work for organization. That's very small,

spk_1:   30:07
right? Yes, I don't Don't get stuck in the well. I don't have the basket for this, so I can't do that. Now you can. You

spk_0:   30:14
guys get all that wrapping paper in an Amazon box? Yeah.

spk_1:   30:18
I mean, and you? I mean, it could it could be just Amazon box. You could wrap it. Whatever. You know, if you've got little's at home, give them some crayons or some paint, and they can paint it.

spk_0:   30:30
Teoh Beauty keeping busy at

spk_1:   30:32
eight. Yeah, and so, you know, just get creative. Give yourself some grace. Don't Don't overthink it, because it's a belt. I mean, knowing that, you know, if if having things aesthetically pleasing is one of the values and I think it makes a big difference from things aesthetically pleasing. Don't get stuck on that, because the function has to be there. Right? So let's get those things containerized to get that function that serves the priority. And then we can upgrade it as needed for the aesthetics. Don't Don't Don't get yourself in a twist on that, because that's where so many people get stuck to is a lot of the basket. So I don't have a little do diets and don't everything. Yeah. Just go shopping around your house, looking the look in the little Tupperware plastics drawer in the kitchen. You can find all sorts of things in there.

spk_0:   31:27
Yeah. So have your plan. Know what you're gonna do? Set a timer, stay in the space and just categorize things. And then, as you categorise, keep categorizing and smaller proportions so you can wrap your head around it, decide what you want to keep and organize it, and then before you're done, label the stuff,

spk_1:   31:47
right? Yeah. And I think I think everybody needs the label maker. I just think that's one of those things.

spk_0:   31:53
That's one of your values,

spk_1:   31:55
right? Yeah. I mean, because it just makes labeling super easy and super clean. And you can have, you know, it could be a clear label. So it's It's not obtrusive. You know. So you know what's on

spk_0:   32:05
their books Really aren't crazy. Expensive. But if that's not in your budget, literally, you can use posted notes with Washington here. I've done merrily I have totally cause for me. Aesthetics does matter. And I like things to look cute. So I will totally use, like, a pink sticky, no good him Use my good hand writing not my family party, and then use washi tape so that it looks you I've totally got that or I've actually, like, made cute labels on my computer, printed them and use Washington.

spk_1:   32:31
Yeah, well, and I mean, and you can even print, like, you confront a regular piece of paper, cut that out, and then take em. Oh, Lord, What they call regular, like, clear tape, uh, and just tape over it, you know? And me. And you can make those you know whatever color you want, or you can color them or, you know, you just creative you as you want, but don't get in the weeds on it,

spk_0:   32:54
right? I agree.

spk_1:   32:55
And again, that's one of the places where you can always aesthetically upgrade like

spk_0:   32:58
you can change it. Yeah, I love it. So any parting words to our my listeners hear about all the things

spk_1:   33:08
Um, give yourself some grace with with getting organized with staying organized with how you define what organization is and just get started because every little bit makes a difference. And so, getting started with with getting your space organized, getting your time organized makes all the difference. And so just start somewhere.

spk_0:   33:34
Well, um, it just start and that applies to pretty much everything in your life that you're not doing. Just break it down, make it smaller and do the big Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for being on the podcast today. It has been great chatting with you. So if somebody wants to find you all of things, where do they find you? Are you on the interwebs? In places Where can they find you?

spk_1:   33:56
I am. My website is cultivating dash you y ou dot com and on instagram it's jennifer dot cultivating. But you I'm on Facebook. I'm on. I'm on all the things. Go places hands. Um and I will also share a coupon code for on upcoming little. I can't I can't Sure exactly what it is yet, but I will share a coupon code so that but because I'll be revealing it by the time this comes out. And so check the show notes for that.

spk_0:   34:29
Definitely it'll be all of them. As always, All of the links to Jennifer will be in the show notes, So you guys can always just scroll on down and go find her in all the places. Also thank you so much. Thank you so much for being on today.

spk_1:   34:43
That's good. Have a great one,

spk_0:   34:45
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